Gavick Templates have become worse

Dear All paid members of this site, do you all agree that last three templates from Gavick team has been below par. What is new in the last three template dear Gavik?

Are you guys taking us for a ride. Look around there are several club templates, and your quality is one of those ..., you just need to give us something for sake of giving.

I'm planing to run a facebook pool to see how Gavick templates have been. Please look around give us something better, new and innovative. Look at what others are offering. We are really bugged from the same old style and repeating of feature.

Really sad once a top rated template (for me) is now become worse. Do all the members here agree with me. These templates are available in ..., why do we need to pay for this crap templates, sorry gavick, you disappoint us since three month. There is nothing new in your template. You wanna know what others are doing look at this sample, look how the K2 items are designed, ...

I can give many references as i'm the member of 5 clubs now. Gavick you need to think, short of idea we members can help in giving ideas. Hope something good can be expected next month.

creativei you are straight tripp'n and clearly out of line. Yes Gavick is sucking right now with template design. Yes they have issues with time management, no way in heck I would have started a new framework right before the release of Joomla 1.6 BUT! if the present framework wasn't adaptable to 1.6 then they DIDN'T need a new site right now.

But to put Gavick in the same sentence with XTC is plain crazy, clearly you don't write code or css and have no understanding of XTC practices or quality. There isn't a template in the world I can't get for free, but these people have to eat, take care of they're families, so I support them with subscriptions.

Hell no I'm not happy with Gavick right now, but I respect them, because when their good their great! So when you get a clue about how hard it is to please everyone ALL the time then... maybe you'll have a valid point.

Jeez I know the guys at Gavick think I have Schizophrenia, I talk crap about ya and the next moment I'm defending ya... Just frustrated Gavick.. get back on point for us.

Hi Mongo,
I'm not out of line, its not that I dont like Gavick templates, I'm using few, but since four to five months, the template is not just what Gavick should be doing. Dude they are in business so the management issue shouldnt effect paid members.

I'm not just comparing J..., And I never said Gavick template arent good. they were, but not amymore. So it hurts for a paid member to see the crap templates fed time and again.

And i'm not talking just about me, check out with all the members, I'm sure atleast 70 percent are unhappy.

And I very well know how hard it is to please everyone, and even i'm paying for the templates though i have access for free ones. I know these people spend a lot of time on it, so I suggest everyone should pay and buy, but when people start paying then club owner shouldn't take us for a ride giving crappy templates, if they have to retain their users, they need to compete with others and bring out the best.

And its high time gavick starts making templates which we members suggest.

how can you say 70% are unhappy? you have no clue how many members we have, and because maybe and this is sat high, maybe 50-70 people are unhappy...

i don't speak the case of gavick on this matter, im talking as a normal member !

Creativei , if you think that our template are not good enough, you can always use the offers of other clubs, e.g. Rokettheme , they always have innovative templates (especially design).
I know, some people want a news, games and portal template style only. No way.
It is unacceptable that a group of dissastisfied customers want to suggest what kind of products we have to release.

We are trying to appeal to a wide range to customers, that’s why we create of different theme templates. We want to have they varied, not repeat it.
Creativei, I don’t need your ideas ‘cause they can be subjective and fulfill your expectations only. We have never obliged to fulfill your wishes and personal expectations.

"sorry gavick, you disappoint us since three month" please speak out on behalf of yourself only.

Regarding time frame, how do you know that every template has to be published on 1,2 or 3 day of a month given? We oblige ourselves to release 4 templates for 4 – month period and 12 for 12 – month license. I guess, it’s clear enough for you.

-Robert

Dear Gavick, its nice to get your inputs, I have never said you have to listen to my personal choice, nor do that mean that you have to give some estore and music template every month.

I have suggest four members to this club, because I was happy with the templates before, dissatisfaction is only past three months, fine if you dont want to listen to dissatisfied client, its your choice. as said i'm member of 5 clubs, but that really dont mean gavick can give us same old templates. Tell me what is special in your latest template?????

We want to have they varied, not repeat it. In what terms your last 5 template vary. in feature, in color ?? please correct me if i'm not able to see the variation.

Sure I'm speak now on my behalf, once i run the pool about all the clubs, surely I will post the details to you. You cannot deny and stress that you are giving us the best, but at times there is issues but a good business man should accept it.

Dear Sir, Every club do keep this commitment, sometimes they give bonus theme, and even gavick has done that, so no discussion on this.

Even i'm not looking at only news, games and portal, we all need every style.


@Explodedx, i know you are not speaking on behalf of gavick, you have no clue how many members we have,So that WE suggest.

Ok here is the truth, the last 3 templates if not three atleast two is not up to the standard, please note we (I) have high expectation from Gavick Team.

Hope there is good things to come in 2011, if not I'm always free to discontinue my membership, as I'm sure it doesnt make much difference, if I were you, I will not like a member leaving the club. So its solely your choice. And thanks for responding, atleast Mr. Robert had the courtesy to respond.

That's your opinion mate, your busines.
I think that's all.

- Robert

As you say, HAPPY, Robert.

Yeah I care for value of my money, if its not there I have choice to walk away. Anyways thanks.

@Explodedx, i know you are not speaking on behalf of gavick, you have no clue how many members we have,So that WE suggest.

if you didn't notice i am part of the gavick team - therefor i say WE!

Good to know. I quit, i dont want to comment more on this subject, if you guys think you are giving top of the line templates, you are wrong, but for me past three months has been disappointment, and no value for money. When I dont get value for money it sucks.

As I said I will wait and watch, if its good in future there is chances of staying back if not good bye. And good luck to the team and the members here.

And the first club i have seen that criticism is not acceptable by owners and team.

critism is okay. and taken - but you talking on behalf of all members is not taken

I think the Gavick templates are getting better !

I just want to spent 2 cent about this discussion. I love Gavick Template for 3 reason:

1) Clean style that can be used for different type of website
2) Easy to customize
3) Lowest price vs. product offered

I'm really impressed about new feature of Gavern Framework. So guys, go haead on this way.

Cheers.

I think the Gavick templates are getting better !

:P Good One

I just want to spent 2 cent about this discussion. I love Gavick Template for 3 reason:

1) Clean style that can be used for different type of website
2) Easy to customize
3) Lowest price vs. product offered

I'm really impressed about new feature of Gavern Framework. So guys, go haead on this way.

Cheers.

Point 1 agree,
Point two somewhat agree
Point Three Not really.

Well here is the template I used recently the base template is used here is Black & White, Customization done by GK.TEITBITE
http://client.creativeicorp.com/kgi

i also agree, that gavick templates are getting better. gavick is the the best template club at this moment - my opinion.
yootheme templates have a boring design, rockettheme is too "cyber" and joomlart is quite ok, but i also don't like their style of templates. joomlaxtc was my first template club and there's no support, many bugs, so you can't use their templates and they release one template in 4 month or so, but call it 12 templates in a year...
i think the last templates are really good. sporter is my favourite joomla template at this moment and you can't expect this every month, so i'm really happy to be a member of gavick. if you don't like it, it's ok, but don't write most members are unhappy with it of course every club have some problems, but at gavick it's ok.

sorry for bad english...

Well here is the template I used recently the base template is used here is Black & White, Customization done by GK.TEITBITE

if you haven't said it was black and white i'd never guessed good work teit...

Maybe gavick can strength members support system like other club does.Sometimes,members complain something doesn't mean something like good or bad,it's also a good way to make gavick to meet members needs.Frankly speak,if gavick forum can't provide support what customers need,close the forum is the properly solution.

i also agree, that gavick templates are getting better. gavick is the the best template club at this moment - my opinion.
yootheme templates have a boring design, rockettheme is too "cyber" and joomlart is quite ok, but i also don't like their style of templates. joomlaxtc was my first template club and there's no support, many bugs, so you can't use their templates and they release one template in 4 month or so, but call it 12 templates in a year...
i think the last templates are really good. sporter is my favourite joomla template at this moment and you can't expect this every month, so i'm really happy to be a member of gavick. if you don't like it, it's ok, but don't write most members are unhappy with it of course every club have some problems, but at gavick it's ok.

sorry for bad english...

I don't think creativei has the right to speak for any member besides himself, and his subscription speaks for it's self.

But what I don't like about this conversation is Gavick as a team has not addressed creativei motivation to create this topic. I mean he's not wrong, Gavick as a unit has been lacking for 6 months or so with no explanation.

Support for customization has been ignored to save time and the members have gotten no benefit from the time that has been saved. Templates are not finished, css has not been tagged through out the templates allowing rouge css from other components to take over the template, common modules are never styled, mega-menu not styled, tabs not styled, K2 members module not styled...

This list goes on and on.. innovation is lacking.. why heck doesn't NSP have a crop setting.. I mean.. I know why, but you knew when you gave it all these sources that you would have to deal with cropping all the image sources. So just bite the bullet because NSP is the best thing sense sliced toilet paper, but it's held back by the lack of that feature.

When all these templates are cut and paste from a coding standpoint, the only difference is a PSD and 10 hours of css coding. There is just no excuse to ALWAYS be late each month, No excuse to be a month behind, No excuse to produce unfinished templates, No excuse for support to be so defensive when people need help with templates that are left prone to problems by the producer.

I don't see how these things will improve with 1.6 being release, K2 dragging their heals to comply with 1.6, a new framework that you and we have to learn, and then we have the nerve to even consider Wordpress.. I've got 30 years of management Gavick give me a job ( cracks whip! )

PS I don't care about Karma so don't bother. I finished 23 websites this month.. I didn't cash a Karma check.

Wow, I am astounded once again.

Firstly I had checked to see if there was a new template a few times, being my second month as a paid member, and I can now see where the lateness could really annoy some people.
Mr Gavick, your reasoning/excuse for this is unacceptable. It seems to be regularity, so why not have a module on your home-page giving an approximate time you visitors should check back? Hmm, maybe not, that would look unprofessional.

Secondly i wanted to find a post about this new template because I think it's crap. As creative mentioned there aren't any new features and I think the design was done in a matter of minutes.
That's actually what this topic started off as, and the reply was crap. Why not put something on your home-page saying 'we make great templates when Joomla and third party extensions aren't developing their product, or it's close to a public holiday, or we are fixing bugs in previous templates.'? Hmm, nah forget that, it's not a great sales point either.

Thirdly, and what has really caused my astonishment, is the response to a paying customer expressing their opinion in an OK manner. I mean this truthfully, I am shocked by your response and although it isn't to anything I have said, I still feel really insulted.

I've always managed to try and bring something positive into my posts, which I can see other members doing the same, but after your response is never positive and in many ways even more insulting. For this reason I won't say anything positive at all. There is a reason I once paid for the subscription, so there must be something that I liked. From now on unless you do something that in my opinion is a move forward then I will not praise a thing. I will however stand up for people like creative that have every right to express their opinion, if done in an acceptable way, and this is your response to him.

I want to quote some of the comments in this post, and even Mr Gavick, but I feel it is a waste of time because I think it is falling on deaf ears. I don't know how you have been brought up, or experiences you have had but responses such as some in this post and others, that I only seem to come across on this forum, are quite simply rude and insulting to both person and intelligence.

Examples:
1) Passing the buck.
2) You have soo many customers you are god.
3) Read the T&Cs, you are god.
4) You have lives outside of work, which impact your ability to work, but that's not the company's fault.
5) You're subscription determines the level of respect you receive.

Lots of the posts here might raise one main point, but have smaller points to add. Sometimes the writer might add things to this, whether it's to voice frustrations or to get a reply. However what i find is that your replies only focus on the negatives, or possible mistakes and not the actual main point of the post e.g. stop speaking on behalf of everyone. In that example I think that we all know that he's not but we don't need it pointed out, and starting a lame sub-topic that's clearly defensive and quite frankly immature e.g. I would expect a better argument out of a 15 year old on Xbox.

Anyway, so that I don't go off topic. I agree with Creative. Are you going to insult me now?

P.S. I was with a client today and showing him some templates from clubs I subscribe to. As I did it I was kind of explaining the differences of each, mainly in style, but I did pause on yours and say 'they are a pain in the ass, but I can still work with those'. As the site loaded (BTW you have loads of issues with that) I was surprised to see a new template and chuckled and said, oh look they finally made a new one!', then I paused and said ermm, it's sh!t but some of the others are quite good.

That was about an hour ago and since finding this post my opinion of Gavick is even less. Is that my fault? My opinion, formed from experiences with you and competitors, is wrong? Do you need to insult me now? Of course not! So then don't. Listen to your customers, eat some humble pie, if you really disagree form a response that does not enrage your customers.

None of your customers on this post have offered anything but constructive criticism and have been met with a response that you really don't care. If that is the case then close your forum and do not offer support.

it's frustrating because as Mongo said, when you are good you're great. Sh!!t, I said something positive. I'm out.

Peas, CB

Bravo blakeys, you can marry my sister.. It seems that most of the people that are having problems are in business, or can actually code. But I know about 20 coders that share the same views, we don't talk on this forum we actually call each other or communicate on e-mail, they have no true scope of the dissatisfaction in this community, even the warez boards are complaining lol.

Good to see there is people to to voice my concern, so me using we or most of the members wasn't wrong then, I don't care what others thing for me addressing everyone. At least after I joined i have made 4 more web development company to join this club, and when checked with they even they are not satisfied at what gavick offered.

First I thought its a biased forum so i will not speak any more. I have two months left, so i might get one more new template, based on that I can decide if to continue or not. As a smart business man I might wait until templates are fresh and unique. So if I join after 6 months I will one year and still have access to old templates if they are good, and more important with bug fix.

Seriously I joined after my client liked elve social, but we waited and we decided to use Quay, but Quay never saw any improvements, then I used TWN, which was promised to convert to T3 framework and K2, even that didn't happen. Unfortunately I got chance to use only Black and White that too with major modification.

Well since this club doesn't care about its dissatisfied members its a no no here. And I'm really surprised to see people saying wow its getting better, I'm really astonished. Well everyone has their own taste, so be it may be some really like the last three template. Especially the latest one.

Well there is no need to waste our time writing in this forum when all we get is insult and ideas are neglected. The bottom line i'm not the last client of Gavick nor Gavick is the only template supplier for Creativei. So no offense taken, carry on your good work, and best of luck.

Thnaks to Blakeys and Mongo.

Hi

Please forgive me but I have to close this topic. It's all going in wrong way. Everyone feels insulted even me.